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  What kind of person was Nathan H. Knorr?

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we have several examples in the forum showing that president knorr was not a loving and caring person; one that impressed me was the one about the elderly bethelite that was put out on the streets until his death due to a disagreement with knorr.

  i bring to your attention an incident that happened in the country of honduras back in the 50s, it has to do with immoral conduct by a branch overseer and his subsequent disfellowshiping.

  i am not critical of the end result of his conduct but rather the salacious and detailed report of this matter putting in the open the details for the whole world to see.

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  I heard a story from a missionary (who has since passed away) about a Gilead student who was suffering from a mental disorder back in Knorr's day. She would become disoriented at night and was known to strip naked and do other strange things. Knorr apparently wanted her back in her home country - and as cheap as possible. He sent her back alone on some sort of cargo ship. She had one of her episodes and jumped overboard, lost at sea.

  He supposedly had a reputation of spending as little as possible on missionaries and basically not giving a damn but would spend liberally in updating commodities at h.q.

  Update: Turns out this story was mentioned on this forum years ago!

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/235355/who-gilead-student-that-jumped-overboard
  
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  Caption This Photo From The January Study Edition

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. social
  2. humour

  so as some are probably aware the january study edition has two articles on the anointed.

  one basically discouraging people from believing they are anointed and another about how ones should view partakers.

  this photo is from the second article:.

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  "Soon, VERY SOON, the whole world will know I AM the true king of the north! The rivers will run RED with the blood of all the SINNERS!"
  
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  I lied to the elders

  by atacrossroads in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i stopped attending meetings all together in january 2015. before that my attendance was irregular at best.

  my husband followed suit a few months ago after months of research, agony, and indecision on his part.

  from the very beginning i laid low and did not share with anyone what i found out about the witnesses because i did not want to be df'd.

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  Remember the definition of lying from Insight On the Scriptures:

  "Lying generally involves saying something false to a person who is entitled to know the truth."

  Are those two men who came to your door entitled to know exactly what happened?

  Lying is obviously not good. But when it comes to dealing with a situation like this, you have to use their rules and their semantics to deal with it. Theocratic warfare!
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  Article: Free Exercise, Penance, and Delaware Court by John M. Grondelski

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2016/02/free-exercise-penance-and-delaware-court.

  free exercise, penance, and delaware court.

  by john m. grondelski february 9, 2016. regular first things readers know that the late father richard john neuhaus never tired of arguing that the first amendment contains not two religion clauses but one: “no establishment” and “free exercise” are not two free-floating provisions at occasional loggerheads with each other but one.

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  Thanks for posting this.

  Here are the dilemmas involved for the witnesses:

  1. The victim reports the wrongdoing to the elders, not the wrongdoer. This is not like a criminal confessing his sins to a priest. This is a victim reporting abuse.

  2. The elders report what they hear to the c.o., possibly other elders and to the branch, breaking the confidentiality that would exist between a priest and a confessor. Yet they don't tell authorities.

  It's a stretch to say they are protected by priest penitent privledge.
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  Daily Mirror article about JWs destroying evidence

  by Tornintwo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i can't see another thread but maybe i missed it:.

  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jehovahs-witnesses-paedophile-sex-abuse-7278824#comments-section.

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  For anyone doubting that elders were instructed to destroy records, see the following letter brought to light by the ARC:

  http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/downloadfile.ashx?guid=a7bc923d-41b0-4b46-89df-00e45f61da97&type=exhibit&filename=WAT.0001.004.0049&fileextension=pdf
  
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  New Light on the Sodomites?

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the men of sodom will be resurrected.[7/1879,p8].

  the men of sodom will not be resurrected.

  the men of sodom will be resurrected.

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  Flipflops!
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  New Light on the Sodomites?

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the men of sodom will be resurrected.[7/1879,p8].

  the men of sodom will not be resurrected.

  the men of sodom will be resurrected.

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  What are the governing body's favorite type of footware?
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  What shocking stories did you ever hear about?

  by Truthexplorer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  as a pre-awakened ms, i heard of 2 stories that i found very shocking at the time.

  please keep in mind, i was following wt blindly at the time and was part of what i thought was the true religion.

  the first shocking story was when i attended a large meeting for elders and ministerial servants covering our circuit.

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  Missionary kills 2 other missionaries in the Samoan missionary home.

  Here's a link to a related court record: http://www.asbar.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2351:american-samoa-govt-v-adams&catid=78&Itemid=229

  Missionary homes were toxic environments, that's why they've almost completely abandoned that arrangement.
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  GB Members: What's the Story?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  over the past few decades i've met many individual jws, but i've always been curious about the gb members themselves and about service at bethel.

  first, do gb members fraternize with regular rank and file members or do they only sell out each other?

  when i was a methodist, it didn't take me long to figure out that our minister and his wife were frequently invited to dinner, but i never heard of him actually inviting members to his house for dinner.

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  I was able to spend some 1 on 1 time with Guy Pierce before he died. He was very busy, so I appreciated the time he took to talk with me. I resisted the urge to ask him some spot questions about some things that were disturbing me.

  He quizzed me on some bible passages, which I enjoyed. But I remember one question about the meaning of a scripture in Romans. I told him from the context it was very easy to understand. He instead pulled out a 1974 or 1975 WT and said "that's what those scriptures say, but notice how the Watchtower explains this scripture. It's very important that we keep up with our current understanding of things, even if it's many years old."

  That's when I realized that WT publications trump the bible.

  The gb members probably avoid the r&f just because they know they are being examined under a microscope. But hey, what do you expect when you are the the only divine channel of communication on earth?
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  Conclusion

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i decided to put an end to my affiliation with the jws for good.

  this decision is not the result of an irrational impulse.

  it is quite the contrary.

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  Robo Bobo

  I was COBOE in a cong with a sister like this. She was a special pioneer and loved to bully others. Any other woman she perceived as a threat to her influence would be accused of immorality. It got to the point where we wouldn't let her comment at meetings anymore, but the org would not remove her as a special pioneer. They eventually moved her to another cong, she turned on her husband and now they both are out.

  She stumbled a few who ended up leaving, but looking back, I hope they found better lives outside the org!